

One nut with exploding underwear tries to blow up a plane, and now the rest of us will be thoroughly creeped out every time we fly. Get ready for more of those "whole body scanners," 3D imaging devices that digitally strip-search passengers, giving a peek of your naked body to those government rent-a-cops from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Eew.
Maybe it's not that bad. The TSA screeners won't be keeping a digital copy of your image, nor will they ever see you face to face. It's private, sorta. However disconcerting this is, it might be a good idea to submit to these invasive searches just to make sure bombs don't make it onto planes.
The $150,000 contraptions, already tested in 23 U.S. airports, on their way to many more locations soon — the TSA ordered 150 more of the machines.
According to the New York Daily News, many airline passengers said they were "all for whole body scanners at airports, if it means better flight safety." Think about it: Would you rather be screened in a high-tech backscatter x-ray scanner, or pawed by a TSA agent in a "pat-down"?
Via Wired
By Josh at 6:55 PM ON 12/28/09
I'd rather go through this machine then be patted down. I would assume its quicker, and its defiantly less invasive. And who would really be turned on by these x-ray like images?
By MatthiasF at 6:56 PM ON 12/28/09
I foresee a new Japanese fetish in our sad future.
By Xanapus at 7:06 PM ON 12/28/09
Would you rather be screened in a high-tech backscatter x-ray scanner, or pawed by a TSA agent in a "pat-down"?
Oh I don't know, it all depends on how attractive the TSA agent is I guess lol.
By strum at 7:14 PM ON 12/28/09
So does this mean we will start to get cancer if we do alot of business travel?
By bystander at 7:16 PM ON 12/28/09
If this is OK with you just wait when somebody would try to blow up a plane with some explosives which are swallowed or put inside a body in any other way. And you will have whole inside body scan before boarding after that.
I think that it is already went too far. As usual Americans try to treat symptoms without addressing the cause of the terrorism . Reverend Wright was right: "America's chickens are coming home to roost. ...."
By murc at 8:03 PM ON 12/28/09
"Think about it: Would you rather be screened in a high-tech backscatter x-ray scanner, or pawed by a TSA agent in a "pat-down"?"
hmmm, I'll choose option 3.
I dont want to be strip searched or strip scanned.
one thing that they should do is profiling. seriously.
And I think airports should get those "puffer" scanners, where you step in it ans it shoots you with a bunch of puffs of air and analyze it for bomb related chemicals. I think that is less invasive, and more effective.
By dbvb at 8:24 PM ON 12/28/09
Let me guess, the scanners were ordered on the 24th?
By Agent86 at 8:40 PM ON 12/28/09
This latest incident demonstrates that airport security is all "Theater". It's all about making you "feel"safer rather than actually making you safer. Total theater.
By aquose at 8:53 PM ON 12/28/09
im sorry this is crazy. its been proven that all this security stuff is for show. if some one wanted to the could just blow up the airport before the security check. and i bet that you could go into the stores in the airport and scrounge something up to kill someone. when did it become common practice to give up all your rights just to fly on a plane
By JimCruiser at 9:31 PM ON 12/28/09
What do these scanners expose you to to get an image and how harmful is this short and long term?
By Traveler at 10:44 PM ON 12/28/09
As if flying didn't already give you a high enough radiation dose. Why does anyone still volentarly fly anywhere on a commercial airliner?
By Roadking at 10:44 PM ON 12/28/09
Xanapus: The obvious answer to your quandry is......NEITHER. I just won't ever get on a plance again.The last major trip to Florida was taken via motorhome. Much more enjoyable, and you actually get to interact with real live people along the way...Screw the airlines!!
By classy at 10:51 PM ON 12/28/09
put a taser like device on every chair, anyone does anything suspicious zapp first, axe questions later
By Wayne at 12:09 AM ON 12/29/09
Roadking,
Those motorhomes are so obnoxious! And those behemoth gas-guzzlers are usually towing an SUV behind them because the motorhome itself isn't a big enough gas-waster, right? Some people are so clueless...
By murc at 12:13 AM ON 12/29/09
oooooo, sorry Wayne...you missed the memo.
NO TREE-HUGGERS ALLOWED!
By medical at 1:47 AM ON 12/29/09
too bad scans like these give you cancer if used to often
By bruteoger at 2:30 AM ON 12/29/09
well presumably, its less radiation than a normal body scan sense it doesn't pierce into the bone and further. Overall probably safe, i'd have no problem using this but would love if I could keep some of the images if they looked better, lot of people I would get to take a plane for this.
By Thrasher at 2:34 AM ON 12/29/09
Who cares if they see you naked!!!
I keep hearing people say this is less invasive and the guy in the booth doesn't know me anyway. I don't mind if someone see's me naked my doctor see's me naked all the time.
That's not the point!
Hm, I thought unreasonable search was a violation of our 4th amendment right? Guess I missed the memo that we've tossed the bill of rights in the garbage. Strange how the majority of us understand this, but inappropriate stuff like this still happens. bystander you've nailed it, they went too far already.
By YeahYeahsqrd at 8:39 AM ON 12/29/09
Answer to JimCruiser:
I would not go through one of these, just ask for a manual search. The T-Rays do break the bonds holding DNA's double helix together, quote Boian Alexandrov - "resonant effects allow THz waves to unzip double-stranded DNA". See this link: http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=12186.0;wap2
By SonicRush at 8:48 AM ON 12/29/09
I'm waiting for the day that we see an XRay Scanner like in TOTAL RECALL. That concept was totally cool!
By Realist at 12:16 PM ON 12/29/09
Ooo! Sexuh airport pr0n! Imagine the Grey Blobs Gone Wild! videos..
By Katie69 at 12:33 PM ON 12/29/09
Guess our family of 5 won't be flying any more...the only person who gets to see what I look like naked or gets to pat my down is my husband! And vice versa! As for my kids, who's to say that the guy / girl looking at these xrays isn't some pervert getting his / her jollies by looking at my kids naked?
Dear airlines,
Guess you better start standing up for America & Americans or you are going to go broke.
Dear Joint Travel Regulations,
How much is the government going to shell out in law suits by government employees who's job descriptions require travel?
Dear TSA & Congressional persons + Hussein,
Right to privacy? Illegal search? Since when do law abiding citizens have to submit to indecencies because you can't do your jobs & prevent the criminas from getting into the country in the first place?
By Realist at 12:55 PM ON 12/29/09
Seriously, If you are fearing being seen naked in these scanners, or fear someone getting their jollies from your kids, you are mental. Mentally deficient that is. Quit buying into the fear mongering media. There isn't a pedophile behind every bush, or a Machiavellian plot to oggle your grey blobbiness.
By Reality-ist at 1:26 PM ON 12/29/09
Actually 'Realist' do a quick web search on one of the many official sites that list sex offenders living in and around your neighborhood/house. There pretty much ARE pedophiles/sex offenders behind every bush, in every town in America. I fly A LOT and many TSA employees do, in fact, look like pedophiles-- or shiftless rejects at the very least...
By Realist at 1:48 PM ON 12/29/09
Shiftless rejects, yes, that they do. However, do you honestly believe that the TSA would hire someone for one of these jobs if they were on a sex offender registry?
However, with how *easy* it is to get on one of the registries, meh. Protect your kids, just don't check your brain at the door to do it.
By Edwardo at 1:49 PM ON 12/29/09
Of course I cant wait to see the first lawsuit by an orthodox muslim woman who argues that her right to privacy is violated. Seeing her body violates her religion. It wont matter anyway, the incompetent idiots running the machines will STILL miss the bad guys just like they did this time. It was his own incompetence and the actions of others on the plane that saved the day - not anything the TSA did.
By cgmpowers at 4:49 PM ON 12/29/09
What's even sadder is that we need a label "L" and "R" to know which is left and which is right...as in seeing the face, butt and genitalia wasn't an indication...
If my TSA needs to know which is the right and left side of a person without these labels...then we all have far bigger problems than them seeing my "package" on some body scan...
By medical at 5:04 PM ON 12/29/09
The scanners expose you to x-ray and cause all types of diseases including cancer.
What next?
A body cavity search?
Endoscopy, ultrasound?
Get real
By Blank Man at 5:28 PM ON 12/29/09
So, I want to know how this is going to stop a dedicated terrorist? If this is the image the TSA will be seeing, what is going to stop a drug smuggler, or terrorist from carrying what they need to conceal rectally?
By Mashira at 5:45 PM ON 12/29/09
rather have the patting
x-rays... i hate radiation
By SonicRush at 5:47 PM ON 12/29/09
I think we are not far off from the day that the TSA implements new rules like:
- 1 small carry on bag.
- No Notebook computers allowed (possibly any electronics in carry-ons.
- Express Lanes for frequent flyers or Business Class
- and Many more...
Honestly, I believe SECURITY screening should be PRIVATIZED by multiple companies instead of being GOVERNMENT Run. At least in that type of situation you can place blame, there can be competition for safety, and new types of technology and regulations can be produced. I am surprised Airports don't have cameras built into the floor, looking up at you as you go through security.
In the end, it comes down to 1 basic thing:
- Would you prefer a lack of security to make you feel better about getting through quicker with all your civil liberties intact?
or
- Would you prefer to wait in line for security and be triple checked before boarding a plane (knowing you are 99.9% safe)?
This whole Terrorist Attempt didn't even take place in our airport, the individual boarded in another country.
I have to say I miss FLY CLEAR. It was a great idea and we need more companies stepping up and taking initiative under government guidelines.
STILL WAITING FOR THAT XRAY MACHINE IN "TOTAL RECALL!"
By M_D at 6:23 PM ON 12/29/09
if you can see peoples junk then it should be illegal. its like having a store and saying anyone that wants in is going to have to flash me first. lame
By Twisted at 8:52 PM ON 12/29/09
Given the real choice, I would rather go through that contraption and be scanned than risk being blown to bits midair by someone with explosive strapped to their bodies. Get real people! It's more torture for the poor soul that has to sit there and look at your fat nasty asses (me included lol) going through the scanner. P.S. if you don't like it drive to your destination.
By Ge0rge09 at 9:32 PM ON 12/29/09
Oh, please. This is as pointless as all the other "security measures" already in place. The only thing these devices do is waste time and money. If you want to stop terrorists you don't take ideas from the idiots who pretend that their system works. You look for people that fit the description, act suspicious or (here's a thought) have been flagged as potential terrorists and don't let these people board planes while we strip search elderly women because they have been "randomly" selected. Profiling works for a reason: You travel to another country, no luggage, pay cash, have NO PASSPORT, Oh, look, he's on a terrorist watch list!
Too bad the dumbass Napolitano wasn't on the flight. I would've been cheering for the undie-bomber.
By MorituriMax at 11:15 PM ON 12/29/09
medicaal, "The scanners expose you to x-ray and cause all types of diseases including cancer. What next? A body cavity search? Endoscopy, ultrasound?
Get real"
Would you RATHER go through all that, instead of stepping through a scanner in like 5 seconds?
Hmmm? I volunteer you for all the random checks and I'll pick the scanner.
By Aminpro at 11:46 PM ON 12/29/09
Dude, is this machine using an x-ray radiation ? Too often exposure can make your cells damaged and get cancer. Maybe they are only using ultrasound technology ? We need details ! A specific one ! If so this machine is using x-ray, what are the explanation on the hazards ?
By Brass Orchid at 2:53 AM ON 12/30/09
We could always just strip the passengers, do a full body cavity check and scan for implants and then stuff them in Tyvek jumpsuits and strap them to padded tables and stack them in the plane like firewood. That works for me. The source of terrorism, as with all human troubles, is human stupidity. Removing that would be like fish removing the water in which they swim. maybe we could just remove the mercury in the water and still be human. But then, there have been too many hippies and ecology gods blowing things up to make me think we can learn that violence as an end to a means doesn't work, though violence against violence in self defense seems to work just fine. Some day soon we may be able to read down to the skin with a device sensitive enough to use ordinary background radiation to view London, France and your underpants. The backscatter x-ray device uses a very low level source and is not a penetrating technology, hence the naming of it as a backscatter device. It is very close to normal background radiation levels.
By MacGyverDXS at 9:51 AM ON 12/30/09
First...lets clear up the safety issues. The scanners being used are Backscatter X-Rays not T-Rays like a previous poster thought. Two entirely different technologies. Second, the Health Physics Society (HPS) reports that a person undergoing a backscatter scan receives approximately 0.005 millirems of radiation; American Science and Engineering Inc. reports 0.009 mrems. According to U.S. regulatory agencies, "1 mrem per year is a negligible dose of radiation, and 25 mrem per year from a single source is the upper limit of safe radiation exposure." So given these figures and a little mathematical computation (assuming the higher .009 mrem levels), after 25 scans you would have been exposed to .23 mrem's, 50 scans .46 mrem, 100 scans .92. So after 100 scans you just reach the negligible level of radiation... assuming you are flying every day of the year and get scanned at each departure, you still have only been exposed to 3.29 mrem at the end of the 365 scans. 3.29 is well below the safe level of 25 mrem per year.
As to those of you with privacy concerns, well you have two choices opt for a strip search, or don't fly. No one is forcing you to step into a scanner. I don't fly often, but when I do, I want every precaution taken to ensure that some idiot with a bomb or weapon isn't going to hijack or destroy the plane I'm on.
By Brass Orchid at 2:30 PM ON 12/30/09
I am also in favor of positioning air marshals throughout the plane with instructions to shoot anybody who blinks or twitches. They need nonstandard projectiles, of course.
By Wxfcstr at 2:50 PM ON 12/30/09
Flying exposes passengers and crew to cosmic radiation of greater intensity than back-scatter scanners. Health Physics Society has some excellent articles relating to exposure during flight.
By Brass Orchid at 2:19 AM ON 12/31/09
@Wxfcstr
Why are you bringing scientific facts into an emotional dispute? This is like walking into a domestic dispute without your taser at the ready.
By AriekB at 6:59 AM ON 12/31/09
Why not go Total Recall and do an explosive/gunpowder full body scan as you pass a security checkpoint? thanks but no thanks, I don't want testicular cancer because I decided to fly home for the weekend.
By Jack@$$ at 1:09 PM ON 12/31/09
Please, all you whiny alarmist b!tches shouldn't be breeding anyway!
By Plague of Smiles at 2:01 PM ON 12/31/09
You SHEEP are so pathetic! The purpose of government sponsored terrorism is to KILL. To kill hundreds you go where the people are. A "terrorist" used to go to the plane. Now there are huge waiting lines of people all gathered in twisting lines. Where do you think the next TARGET will be idiots? You've made it easy for government agents to launch their next false flag operation. They'll just skip the planes and begin targeting the congested waiting lines! Morons! You've made it easier for them to kill you.
By Neotyguy40 at 6:36 PM ON 01/01/10
@Plague of Smiles
If that was the case, why would a terrorist waste his time at the airport? Just go to New York, and put a bomb in the crowd.
What I don't get, is why an airport? Why on a plane? Why the heck would they blow themselves up before trying to threaten and get control of the plane? You would only kill about 20-30 people (less if the plane doesn't crash), when in Manhatten you could kill almost twice that many.
By JP at 12:51 AM ON 01/03/10
Owell was an optimist.
By JP at 1:02 AM ON 01/03/10
^Orwell^ seriously though. This is ridiculous. The only way we'll ever be "safe" is if they lock us (and everyone else) up from cradle to grave. Give us back our rights and our ability to defend our selves and stop making us dependent upon the state. I wonder how long it will take for a complete breakdown. It took the economy about 80 years to start, but I don't think we're quite that resilient. In the mean time just sit back and enjoy the show. Maybe we'll learn something this time, though I doubt it'll stick.
By bikerchick72019 at 11:18 PM ON 01/03/10
Aside from this whole unconstitutional line of BS, has anyone seriously considered the HARM that these x-rays are going to do to an otherwise healthy body? Do your research peeps - since the H1N1 scare didn't work too well; it's time for the feds to pull the next rabbit out of their hats.
By mikey M at 9:36 PM ON 01/04/10
So how do you get the weed past these machines?? :)
By Wrong at 1:36 PM ON 01/05/10
I have been and will continue to boycott the airlines. There are very few real terrorist in the world except the CIA. There is no need for such technologies. This is an attempt to control the masses and show them that they no longer have any rights in the new World order.
The FooFighters Said it best:
"What if I say I’m not like the others?
What if I say I’m not just another one of your plays
You’re the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?"
If I am alone I will fight for my liberty.
By Tomas Estrada-palma at 6:25 PM ON 01/05/10
http://tomasestradapalma4today.blogspot.com/2010/01/origin-of-naked-airport-scan-image.html
This is how the scans really look
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