

There've been a number of reports about the new Western Digital WD TV Live media server going on sale this week, but I think most of these reports missed the point. I got a chance to play with one, and I think I get it now.
The $150 WD TV Live is the latest in a growing number of cheap gateways that bring Web video and PC media to a TV. Another is the recently unveiled $100 Asus O!Play HDP-R1. (I haven't played with the Asus, but assuming it performs similarly to the WD TV Live, I can only hope Western Digital adjusts its price disparity appropriately.)
Unlike most all-in-one media servers, WD TV Live is more of a component system. It's relatively cheap because it doesn't include any onboard media storage memory.
Why this is a good thing after the jump.
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WD's theory is: We are storing gig after gig of music, HD video and pictures, so much so that typical media servers with built-in memory might soon run out of space. With memory so cheap these days and getting cheaper every day (it's easy to find 500GB drives for less than $100) WD figures you'll spend less with the combination of this cheap gateway and a separate hard drive or two, plus it'll be easier and cheaper to add on more later on by daisy-chaining USB drives.
By comparison, the Netgear Digital Entertainer Elite EVA9150 media server with 500GB built in is $400. The small WD TV Live box connected to multiple drives don't look pretty, but it makes fiscal sense.
To accommodate memory, the WD TV Live, aside from the now de rigueur HDMI and Ethernet jacks, has two USB jacks, on on the rear and another on the side. More impressive is its Apple TV-lite GUI interface, which uses simple up-down/left right navigation to guide you through the system and your files. WD TV Live can handle full 1080p video and most video CODECs (although I got no audio from some .MOV files, mostly footage shot with DXG pocket cams). You also get live video previews of files. It also doesn't play old DRM'd iTunes tracks. It does connect to YouTube and Flickr.
Network-wise, you connect either via Ethernet cable or Wi-Fi, but you have to get a third-party Wi-Fi dongle for the latter. WD TV Live can access content on Windows PCs (you'll need to input your PC's name and password). On a Mac, you can drag-and-drop files to connected hard drives via Bonjour but, quite frankly, Mac users are probably better off with an Apple TV.
WD TV Live may not be the most elegant media server choice, but it may be the most future-perfect.
By Krazypoloc at 11:22 AM ON 10/16/09
Am I mistaken or is the reviewer referring to storage as "memory". I thought this was a technology site, but I have come to find some of the people reviewing the products are technologically void.
By beowuff at 11:31 AM ON 10/16/09
Okay, this complaint may seem a little bit petty, but when you refer to HD space as "memory", you loose all credibility... RAM is memory. Not HDs.
I suppose it could be using the HD as memory, but that would be S... L... O... W... and completely impractical.
At least you got my attention. Now, I want to go look up the specs for this thing and see what kind/how much memory the thing actually has...
By ankhman at 11:45 AM ON 10/16/09
What kind of person writes a tech article and doesn' t know the difference between memory and permanent storage. This article also should have been reviewed by someone @ dvice before it was posted. Wake up people!
By Davyes at 12:01 PM ON 10/16/09
I have the early version of this (WDTV). I'm a big fan of it and they have done a couple of updates on my version.
Looks like they've done a bit of work on the interface. (The list of movies with the preview is not available) Hopefully some of these will make it into an upgrade for those of us with the plain WDTV.
By PeterPachal at 12:10 PM ON 10/16/09
OK, guys, you've got a point. Contemporary language has pretty much adopted the storage vs. memory terminology. But fundamentally Stewart's not wrong — historically, storage and memory have been used fairly interchangeably. And beyond terminology, context matters. If, for example, someone refers to 512MB primary storage on a laptop or 320GB of memory on a hard disk, I think it can be easily inferred what each of those references mean. In the same vein, I think it's clear what Stewart is referring to in the piece.
However, to further clarify matters, we've edited the first reference as "...onboard media storage memory."
By Old Man Dotes at 1:48 PM ON 10/16/09
Here's some help for the technically-defiicinet blogger:
"Memory" - your brain, or RAM in your PC
"Storage" - your filing cabinet, or a hard drive.
Calling storage "memory" - total loss of geek cred.
FAIL.
By Giggity at 2:08 PM ON 10/16/09
Wow...way to drive home an already exhausted point, Old Man.
Its like giving the perfect comeback...a day later.
Unless you guys are his grade-school teachers, give the writer a break...we all knew what was meant anyway and as was stated, it wasnt fundementally wrong.
By PTRICKY at 3:42 PM ON 10/16/09
What are you all talking about? Primary memory is RAM, Secondary memory is hard drive storage. Take a programming class.
By "loose" is not "lose" at 4:09 PM ON 10/16/09
I was somewhat agreeing with your premise, beowuff, but then you said "loose crediblity" and lost me.
By Dragon at 10:30 PM ON 10/16/09
Wow! Most of you should be ashamed of yourselves. This is a device reviewing site, not grammar school! If the reviewer made enough sense that you were able to "correct" him with such clear resolve, he must have also made perfect sense. Grow up and find the appropriate forum for this nonesense and allow those of us interested in the product some space for questions and comments about the actual product/review.
My Question...
I have an XBOX 360 and have been using it successfully as a media streamer for some time now. I enjoy the music interface, but movies are aweful (not to mention the heat issues).
How is the music interface on this device. The movie interface should be fairly straight forward as most movies are 1 maybe 2 files in some cases but I have a large music collection and would like a descent feature set for this function. Does it play playlists, randomize, does it have a "player" type interface where you can add to a currently playing list?
All the reviews I've read on almost all of these media players concentrate on video! Last time I looked there was more to media than just video!
Thanks for the review!
By gshep at 9:58 AM ON 10/18/09
Every article I read emphasizes the ability to watch Internet video through the newly added Ethernet port. Seriously? THAT'S the big upgrade you think it has? Sure, the Ethernet port is the reason I'd buy this, but it's certainly not for Youtube and Flickr. It's so I don't have to hook and unhook a hard drive in order to add new material. I have umpteen GB of TV shows on my computer and really don't want to fork out money for a 2nd external HDD (don't wanna use my backup HDD).
Add Hulu and maybe the Web video access will be worth it. Ok, well, Pandora does make it semi useful already.
By murc at 12:34 AM ON 10/19/09
I just bought this a couple days ago from bestbuy.com...its on sale for $120, but unfortunatly its backordered....so I wont actually get it for a couple more weeks. :(
I love the fact that thye finally added an ethernet port, since I have a NAS with hundreds of HD movies.
By Brass Orchid at 3:23 AM ON 10/19/09
Swapping out your offline storage memory via USB means you can have a library out of sight where the kids can't get it, if that's important to you. And about calling it memory...
Really? RAM is RAM. Online or offline, it is still memory. Highly evolved dialectic drift may make a distinction among the learned of the new generation. Or maybe it is devolved. Hard to say. People call power cells batteries all the time when they are single cells and not a battery of cells. Common usage is not the same as technical knowledge.
By Adoe at 9:56 AM ON 10/19/09
Isn't Geek and Cred an oxymoron? What a bunch of tails. You knew what he meant.
Now about this thingymawhatsit, is it any good? Owners please respond
By Aran at 11:52 AM ON 10/19/09
beowuff - i know this may be petty too, but HD "these days" refers to High Definition...
HDD would be the appropriate acronym for Hard Disk Drive. ;)
By Leatherneck at 12:01 PM ON 10/23/09
Some of you bozos are trying to come off as smart and failing dramatically.
1. While the reviewer might know the distinction of storage and memory, that doesn't guarantee everyone else does. When you write, you write for the lowest common denominator to keep it accessible for a wider audience.
2. The best reviews of consumer grade electronics aren't written by Alpha Geeks. They're written by "normal" people. The reason for this is, if a device is easy for them to use, the Alpha Geek will have no problem using it. However, the reverse isn't always true. What might be second nature for use by an AG, a common person (and they outnumber us by quite a bit) might find it difficult or cumbersome to use. That can kill a product, no matter how good it is otherwise.
So, in short, put your slide rule away, relax your geek and read what's written. Looking for things to nitpick on doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look like a socially-awkward, basement-dwelling jerkhole.
By new hidden object games at 10:12 PM ON 11/04/09
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By Topkingtou at 9:49 PM ON 11/12/09
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