You're an idiot.

I don't get it. It's like complaining that Honda makes a red car with a grey interior. It's a product, get over it. It still opens the door.

Why oh why did apple not make the failing battery user replaceable in the iphone and itouch?Its so ridiculous to put out a product that uses a rechargeable battery that will fail.Sure you can send it in to apple to be replaced costing more of course not to mention the inconvenience of having to ship it away!. Yea I know this way Apple keeps the money in there pocket!Why any company (other than reason mentioned above)would not make a rechargeable battery user replaceable knowing the batter will fail,making product totaly usless at that point is beyond me.

Batteries in iPods and the iPhone do suck, they are not easy to replace. Saying they aren't replaceable or user replaceable isn't exactly right. They are, its just difficult. You can replace the batteries without sending it to Apple, that is just the easiest way for a non-techie.

I don't care about the iPhone, doubt I'll ever have one... but I do like my iPod touch, and i also think the onscreen keyboard is actually rather easy to use... after you get used to it. It sucked a lot for awhile, but now i can actually use it quick and easy and have few typos.

Hey Divice, Would you like some cheese to go with that wine?

No one has ever, or will ever force someone to purchase this amazing little device. If it doesnt suite your needs, dont buy it. Simple. Its been nothing but 202 days of complainers and babies.

I'm on my second iPhone (the first was stolen), and it is simply the best phone I've ever had. Complain all you want - I'm livin large and lovin' it. And the Edge network isn't THAT slow, jeez!

All this "insightful" punditry from the a site hosted by the channel that runs GhostHunters.
LULZ!

I actually think this analysis is fairly insightful. Newsflash to all my fellow comment-buddies: an inability to grasp nuance is a sign of a poor mind.

The piece isn't saying the iphone doesn't represent a new generation of cell phone / smart phone awesomeness. It's just saying: don't believe all the hype. I agree - I have the phone. I love it. It's amazing and revolutionary and better than anything else out there. But it also has some big flaws and is missing some things that other, lesser priced / less well-developed phones already have.

Point to fact, I think this piece gathers things together in a pretty cogent (and definitely non-sycophantic) manner.

Particularly on point
- lack of cut & paste
- lack of a chat application (iChat)
- lack of flash

All of these things can, at least in theory, be fixed via software updates. It's a question worth asking: why are we still lacking flash, chat, and cut & paste on a phone that ostensibly runs a completely formed computer operating system and has been released for, as the article says, over 200 days.

The hardware stuff I'm not so bothered by: yes it would be great if it was 3g, replacable battery, blah blah blah. But that's more 'wish for the future' stuff.

The weight? Personally, I think the phone is wonderfully thin and light for what it offers and yet it still manages to feel 'well built'. What kills me is the 'slipperiness' of the phone's casing: it just begs to be dropped. Having said that: believe it or not, Apple built a sturdy device. I've dropped it from 3-' onto pavement, and it came through with nothing more than a scratch.

Bottom line: good article. To the author: There are intelligent grown up people online. I swear. We're not all 17-year-olds with bursting pimples and a penchant for posting ignorant comments on boards. To my comment buddies: grow up. Write intelligently and have a point behind what you write, positive or negative. And drop the cute acryonyms. Are you 7?

HTH ;)

G.J

Wow I read a fairly interesting opinion piece on why the writer feels the IPhone is still annoying and I find some comments worthy of a video game fanboy message board.

While I concede the Iphone is an impressive piece of technology, its promise seems to outweigh what it is currently capable of delivering, particularly online.

Are we seriously at a point where most Apple fans are incapable of accepting honest criticism about an Apple product? Just once I would love to see a tech conversation that didn't lead to fanboy posts.

@ George Juno, Hengst2404 and Dvice. Hows this for an "intelligent grown up opinion". If your going to write an article saying "Top 10 reasons the iPhone is still annoying after 202 days" (obviously a poor headline to grab peoples attention, there by creating clicks to this ad sponsored link). Follow it up with "Top 10 reasons the iPhone is an outstanding product". If your going to write an opinion article you should also include the opposite opinion on every point you write about. Other wise you end up sounding one sided, and just spiting out your own agenda. I'm for equal and balanced writing on something that is obviously a prospected view of perfection. The writer and you two are obviously never going to be satisfied with anything that comes out, perfection is in the eye of the beholder. So, No I don't agree its a good article, to me it sounds like hate propaganda on a few minuscule items blown way out of proportion. Then again it could just be a slow day in the tech industry and well, you have to write about something.

Are you going to follow that with a comment supporting their article to make sure that your commentary is balanced?

Lol there are some silly, sad, perhaps even tragic people populating the internet. It is seldom worth even posting anymore as the zealots are out in full force.

This is an opinion piece on a tech blog, don't like what the author had to say....well either complain as you are and be happy or go somewhere else on the web where you will undoubtedly find somebody who has an opinion you love and agree with.

I am not entirely agreeing with the author of this piece, in fact I think there is a lot about the phone which is amazing. I just haven't drank the cool-aid on this apple product like many have.

I am a habitual early adopter, so perhaps I never will be satisfied as the market is full of impressive, yet flawed devices. Just because I have some issues with the IPhone doesn't mean anything regarding how I feel about anything else.

My comment was to the legion of rabid fanboy apple defenders out there who belive that Jobs and Apple can never do wrong.

Here, here HENGST2404. Vdogg, you are abosulutely right, it is an opinionated commentary, but that being said do you even know what that is? An opinion doesn't have to acknoledge anything but the views of the writer. Obviously, the American school system has indoctrinated you well with the propaganda of equality in all.

In regards to the Iphone, i respect it and its developers. However, it not my thing so i didn't buy one. Therefore i won't drone on about flaws or advances because i am not qualified.

A good commentary, but i am even more impressed by my fellow posters who were actually able to look beyond pitiful biases and ignored the proliferation of fanboys.

Here, here HENGST2404. Vdogg, you are abosulutely right, it is an opinionated commentary, but that being said do you even know what that is? An opinion doesn't have to acknoledge anything but the views of the writer. Obviously, the American school system has indoctrinated you well with the propaganda of equality in all.

In regards to the Iphone, i respect it and its developers. However, it not my thing so i didn't buy one. Therefore i won't drone on about flaws or advances because i am not qualified.

A good commentary, but i am even more impressed by my fellow posters who were actually able to look beyond pitiful biases and ignored the proliferation of fanboys.

Here, here HENGST2404. Vdogg, you are abosulutely right, it is an opinionated commentary, but that being said do you even know what that is? An opinion doesn't have to acknoledge anything but the views of the writer. Obviously, the American school system has indoctrinated you well with the propaganda of equality in all.

In regards to the Iphone, i respect it and its developers. However, it not my thing so i didn't buy one. Therefore i won't drone on about flaws or advances because i am not qualified.

A good commentary, but i am even more impressed by my fellow posters who were actually able to look beyond pitiful biases and ignored the proliferation of fanboys.

You obviously are a Microsoft robot. Coming from IT Microsoft may have the features but a phone that has a reset tool in stylus because you need it that often is not worth it. Once third party apps are developed there be no reason to use the under power Windows Mobile phones. Also the keyboard on the iphone is faster once you get used to it. As for the AIM, there are web apps to do msn and aim. You didn't do much research.

The best part is...my PDA/phone satisfies all of these complaints. There's only 1 thing the iPhone does that my PDA doesn't: multi-touch. That should really says "dual-touch" anyway.
In the end, I also get GPS built it--no need for those Google Maps, but, hey, I have 3G if I need Google, or WiFi, or Bluetooth.

I just don't see the point of this phone...how is this innovation when HTC, ETen, etc., have been making these phones for years?

The only things I agree with in this review are that you have to get special headphones and it's difficult to type on the "keyboard". Everything else is just nitpicking. With all it's flaws, it's still way better than any other cell phone that I've ever seen.

Yes, the iPhone has flaws. It could be better. But on the flip side, compare it to other phones. How many other phones have copying and pasting? And about the battery: Apple does it to save space. If you want another backup battery, it's on the market.

About the unlock: It is true, I wish Apple would hurry up and unlock the iPhone. But of the few phones that can add apps like the Treo or Windows Mobile, they are still much harder to use. I'd willingly give up my Treo for the iPhone when its SDK is released.

And as for typing, some have problems, some don't I've never had any trouble typing on it; it's actually easier for me to type on it than a Treo, whose keyboard is too small - definitely smaller than the iPhone's virtual one. And it's a compromise you have to make unless you want to take from the iPhone's clean face and limit screen space. Take the Treo and Motorola Q - both could have had much larger screens, but needed a keyboard that was as large as the screen. Sometimes you just don't need a keyboard. But it would be nice if Apple somehow improved its keyboard, possibly by haptic feedback or some other method.

For the iPhone, Meebo has always been enough for instant messaging. And I tend to email more than IM with the iPhone. Of course, for those who use IM a lot, a app for that would be nice. Which brings up a question: when the SDK comes out, would YOU (those complaining) make an IM app? If you see a need, you should try to help the community by working on an app, like the Palm community used to do (and still does to some extent), instead of just complaining about it. Think about it: a lot of great programs for Mac and Windows are not Microsoft/Mac products. Why do they have to make all the software? Even now, the door has been open for quite a while to make web-based apps. It's not perfect, but it is still very useful. Some have done this; others have just sat and complained about a lack of third-party apps (and for that matter, yes, I did unlock iPhone).

Moving on to the weight. It's not that heavy. I've never had anyone, 8-year-old kid to adults, drop it.

This argument is not that good. Yes, I'd love to have Flash apps. But not many other phones have that. And the iPhone browser is one of the best ones I've ever seen.

Not being an audiophile, I use the headphones provided. Lame, some may say, but hey, I can't really tell the difference. The standard ones work fine for me and a lot of others. Those with their own special $100+ headphones/earplugs should be able to buy an adapter for a fraction of the cost of the headphones/earbuds.

Lame e-mail app - well, it's still the best I've seen on a cellphone. I'm not saying it couldn't be better, of course.

So, overall, I think the iPhone is a wonderful phone. Yes, it's not perfect. But it should be taken in context with other phones, and as what it really is: a good phone with lots of abilities. It's not a computer...yet (I mean, if it was supposed to be a full-fledged mini computer, someone by now would have bought it and junked their laptop. But no one does because it's a...phone.)

These are my humble comments. If you don't agree, don't listen to them. I'm not a iPhone fanboy, but I'm also no pessimist about it: I just think it has great potential. Which, by using the word "potential," I am saying that it's not perfect. If it was perfect, then it has no potential for improvement...

Ok, I think I need to jump in here. Just so you all know, I work for an AT&T dealer and I'm a big tech head. All the bad things that have been said about the iphone here are just that, bad, but most of them are a little off when it comes to comparing phones. Lets look at the iPhone for what it's supposed to do.

Exclusive: Apple has a two year contract with AT&T which is why no one else has it. Unlock? Yes is sucks that you really can't very well, but there is a good reason. Almost all phones are the same way. The RAZR was the same way, and even now the RAZR 2, the V9 is only available through AT&T (for those who think they're smart, the V9m is not the same thing, it's just close).

Smart Phone: Lets get real people. The iPhone is NOT a smart phone. It's an entertainment phone. It's priced like a smart phone, but so is the V9 and the LG Shine. So why isn't it a smart phone? Can you edit documents? How about spread sheets? e-mail? well it's there, but not great. Have you ever used a Blackberry? If you're doing mobile e-mail THAT IS what you want, no question. So as far as this goes, what's the problem? The problem is that it's marketing called it a smart phone but it's really not. Don't lie to us again apple... even if it is what you're good at.

Entertainment Phone: This is what the iPhone is, and it does a decent job. The music browser is awesome and the new touch interface (which is on the MacBook Air now too) is really sweet. That's what caught my eye originally. It also has a pretty sleek design, even if it is somewhat large for an entertainment phone. Let's look at the different entertainment aspects individually.

Music: Like i said before, smooth interface. There is one MAJOR flaw to this. PISS POOR HEADPHONES! I can't stress that enough. To top it all off it has it's own special jack that nothing else can fit. An adapter exists but why should i need one. Not only that but it pokes out of the thing almost an inch. If you want a good solid music phone go with the Sony Errikson W580i. much better for music and it comes with a sink cable and $50 good quality headphones.

Movies: Yeah it can play them, but if you're really going to advertise this, put more memory that 8GB, or even more than 16GB. It's just not enough. And speaking of video, the iPhone can't take it. Most free phones can take video now. Let's take it one step farther and let you all know that you can't send/recieve video messeges.

Pictures: 2mp camera... pretty slick... wait... the HTC tilt has a 3mp and it's the same price. And again with the not being able to send/recieve pic messeges. what is that about?

Internet: So this was the "big thing" in it's first adds. Use the net anywhere... big whoop. All phones can do that, some better than others, but all smart phones has real browsers. But here's the real kicker. NO 3G! Are you kidding me apple? You made a net phone and it's not 3G. Just... plain... stupid... no other way the describe that. "Oh but it can open multiple browsers." seriously people? Get opera or something. One last thing in favor of the iphone... sorta. Show me a phone with flash... i dare you. So don't complain that it doesn't have it. Cool thing though, there is a new browser in the making that will suport flash... oh wait... what? it's not for the iphone? oh that's too bad.

Text: I'll touch briefly on this. Until recently you could not send mass texts. WTF? And now their advertising it as some great new thing. We're not buying it Apple. Also the interface for texting can be a little tricky for some, but to be honest all the them take some time to get used to when you first start.

Price: First let's address the fact that this is the ONLY phone that CANNOT get ANY discount for new/upgrading accounts. What is that about? OK so let's compare it's actual price to others AT&T has. The HTC Tilt is the only other phone with that price... and the tilt the top end phone that AT&T provides. Why is it that every other phone is cheeper? Easy, it's something us tech-heads like to call the "white box syndrome" where everything that apple makes is WAY over priced... period. And throw in the fact that there is no physical protection plan available for it.

In closing: What exactly is the iPhone? Well, it's a typical Apple product. Come up with something REALLY cool, create a product with that, then forget about EVERYTHING else that is normally basic for competing products. People please do your research before spending an insane amount of money on this thing. If you research it and it's still the item you want. Then more power too you. That is all. Thank you for your time.

I love the Iphone defenders..face it..this phone was 80% hype. They got all those people who like fluff over substance...it's a lesson for you.

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